From nicolaslara at gmail.com Sun Jul 1 22:17:41 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 22:17:41 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Fwd: Proposal (Again) In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707011155u744fb035le1130b9371022abb@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707011155u744fb035le1130b9371022abb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707011217i1ab3cd1ah24406549b6eeb86a@mail.gmail.com> As promised I expanded my proposal to better explain the idea of the config manager. You can find the documment with the deatils in: http://svn.uludag.org.tr/pardus/playground/vynil/proposal.pdf Hope you like it, -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070701/4b80ea84/attachment.htm From w.gielen at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 00:53:00 2007 From: w.gielen at gmail.com (Willem Gielen) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 23:53:00 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Fwd: Re: [Pardus-translators] Some bugs in new update In-Reply-To: <200706241633.54465.faik@pardus.org.tr> References: <200706241633.54465.faik@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: Hi Faik, I noticed that the Package manager now shows up above tasma, which is a very good thing. Only is it still called "Toevoegen of verwijderen software" instead of Pakketbeheer, also in Tasma it still shows up wrong. I hope you can correct this in the next release. Kind regard Willem 2007/6/24, Faik Uygur : > Apart from the translation problem - that is going to be fixed for the > release. The other problem belongs here to discuss. > > A little while ago we started a thread in "gelistirici" list for this problem. > And if i am correct, the favored place to put the pm shortcut was below or > above the Tasma shortcut at the same level in the Pardus menu. > > Ideas always welcome :) > > Regards, > - Faik > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: Re: [Pardus-translators] Some bugs in new update > Date: Pazar 24 Haziran 2007 > From: "Willem Gielen" > To: "Faik Uygur" , pardus-translators at pardus.org.tr > > Do you know when the package manager error will be fixed? And would it > be possible to add a package manager icon on the desktop by default? > Easy so delete, but handy for people starting with Pardus to find > their way around... > > Kind regard, > Willem Gielen > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > From ismail at pardus.org.tr Tue Jul 3 00:54:53 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F6nmez?=) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 00:54:53 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Fwd: Re: [Pardus-translators] Some bugs in new update In-Reply-To: References: <200706241633.54465.faik@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <200707030055.01019.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Tuesday 03 July 2007 00:53:00 Willem Gielen wrote: > Hi Faik, > I noticed that the Package manager now shows up above tasma, which is > a very good thing. You are welcome. > Only is it still called "Toevoegen of verwijderen > software" instead of Pakketbeheer, That comes from Dutch translation. > also in Tasma it still shows up wrong. Wrong as in? /ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070703/8a3ebbfb/attachment.pgp From w.gielen at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 01:09:56 2007 From: w.gielen at gmail.com (Willem Gielen) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 00:09:56 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Fwd: Re: [Pardus-translators] Some bugs in new update In-Reply-To: <200707030055.01019.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <200706241633.54465.faik@pardus.org.tr> <200707030055.01019.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: It is translated in the same way as the other languages: Package manager is called 'Software toevoegen of verwijderen' This should be: Name[nl]=Pakketbeheer instead of: GenericName[nl]=Software toevoegen of verwijderen Can you otherwise tell me where the problem is situated so I can correct it. Also in Tasma Package managent is called: "Software toevoegen of verwij..." Willem 2007/7/2, Ismail D?nmez : > On Tuesday 03 July 2007 00:53:00 Willem Gielen wrote: > > Hi Faik, > > I noticed that the Package manager now shows up above tasma, which is > > a very good thing. > > You are welcome. > > > Only is it still called "Toevoegen of verwijderen > > software" instead of Pakketbeheer, > > That comes from Dutch translation. > > > also in Tasma it still shows up wrong. > > Wrong as in? > > /ismail > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > > From ismail at pardus.org.tr Tue Jul 3 01:21:56 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F6nmez?=) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 01:21:56 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Fwd: Re: [Pardus-translators] Some bugs in new update In-Reply-To: References: <200706241633.54465.faik@pardus.org.tr> <200707030055.01019.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <200707030122.01657.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Tuesday 03 July 2007 01:09:56 Willem Gielen wrote: > It is translated in the same way as the other languages: > > Package manager is called 'Software toevoegen of verwijderen' > This should be: > Name[nl]=Pakketbeheer > instead of: > GenericName[nl]=Software toevoegen of verwijderen In the menu entries are shown like this; Name (GenericName) So you should translate according to that. Regards, ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070703/d6fff405/attachment.pgp From gurer at pardus.org.tr Tue Jul 3 14:52:41 2007 From: gurer at pardus.org.tr (=?utf-8?q?G=C3=BCrer_=C3=96zen?=) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 14:52:41 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Fwd: Proposal (Again) In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707011217i1ab3cd1ah24406549b6eeb86a@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707011155u744fb035le1130b9371022abb@mail.gmail.com> <46ef4bec0707011217i1ab3cd1ah24406549b6eeb86a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707031452.41136.gurer@pardus.org.tr> On Sunday 01 July 2007 22:17:41 Nicolas Lara wrote: > As promised I expanded my proposal to better explain the idea of the config > manager. Thanks, well prepared, took a bit of time to read it, here are my thoughts: Monitoring /etc seems a very good idea. It is not limited to a local copy, you can keep several servers' configuration in a central repository for example. I didn't understand the "adding inotify module to kernel" part, if you are talking about inotify support, that is already included in all Pardus kernels as it is very useful and used in many places. If you talking about our /etc monitor application, that is bad design to put something belongs to userspace to the kernel. Config API is hard to evaluate. Hopefully it can be implemented as a python module in separate package, and can be used in some packages to test. Provide part is not necessary. You can already create a class in Comar model, and configure the application with a separate script providing such class. For user settings, it is best to not mix package-manager in and use a custom settings application. From nicolaslara at gmail.com Tue Jul 3 18:00:09 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:00:09 -0400 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Fwd: Proposal (Again) In-Reply-To: <200707031452.41136.gurer@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707011155u744fb035le1130b9371022abb@mail.gmail.com> <46ef4bec0707011217i1ab3cd1ah24406549b6eeb86a@mail.gmail.com> <200707031452.41136.gurer@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707030800u1f26eef9u168fe09fd9ecbb18@mail.gmail.com> On 7/3/07, G?rer ?zen wrote: > > On Sunday 01 July 2007 22:17:41 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > > As promised I expanded my proposal to better explain the idea of the > config > > manager. > > Thanks, well prepared, took a bit of time to read it, here are my > thoughts: > > Monitoring /etc seems a very good idea. It is not limited to a local copy, > you > can keep several servers' configuration in a central repository for > example. Good idea :) Im thinking that with that maybe having interesting configurations available for download could also be done in the future. (something like: I want apache configured with cacti and virtual hosts.. well, lets downloaded from the config repo...). I didn't understand the "adding inotify module to kernel" part, if you are > talking about inotify support, that is already included in all Pardus > kernels > as it is very useful and used in many places. If you talking about our > /etc > monitor application, that is bad design to put something belongs to > userspace > to the kernel. I didn't know the support was already in the kernel. I just did ls /dev/inotify and assumed the, since the device wasn't there, that the kernel was not build with inotify support. Of course the monitoring app should be in userspace :) Config API is hard to evaluate. Hopefully it can be implemented as a python > module in separate package, and can be used in some packages to test. > > Provide part is not necessary. You can already create a class in Comar > model, > and configure the application with a separate script providing such class. I don't understand much of Comar because i haven't used it too much and there's not much documentation in english. I liked a lot the provide part :p, but if comar already handles it better. For user settings, it is best to not mix package-manager in and use a custom > settings application. You mean to create an application to manage user settings? That is the same thing I propose for user settings only that the config scripts should come with the packages. _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > Thanks for the reply :) -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070703/4cb071a8/attachment.htm From tuxed.up at googlemail.com Tue Jul 3 20:58:35 2007 From: tuxed.up at googlemail.com (Michael Austin) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:58:35 +0100 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Idea for Package-Manager Message-ID: <279b1f500707031058s32b7c282vd7212786cf644a99@mail.gmail.com> Hello Everyone, I was looking at the CNR service that Linspire are developing that will cover a number of distributions, not just their own Linspire and Freespire [1]. The screenshots section [2] gave me an idea for future development of Package-Manager. On the screenshots you can see there is the package name, description, version and other information. In addition to these you can see there is a screenshot of the application. This is the part that gave me the idea. My idea is that Package-Manager should continue to show the package name, description, package size, version number and link to home page, but in addition the chosen package should display a screenshot of the chosen application. My idea is that Package-Manager should display a small scaled down version of the screenshot, and clicking it opens a larger version. To cater for those with low bandwidth connections the small image could open link to a larger version from the internet. The small scalaed down version could be cached locally like the package list. To further cater for low bandwidth users, the screenshots could be disabled, meaning no screenshots are displayed or downloaded and cached. The images could be low quality jpeg images. During the build process on the build server, the images could be scaled using imagemagik or something similar. Each developer could take a screenshot of the application and then add to the pspec of the package. Then commit the image along with the pspec, actions and other files. I do not fully understand the workings of Pisi, but my idea seems possible. If requested I can try to make a mock up of my idea to demonstrate how Package-Manager could look. Michael (Tuxedup) [1] http://www.cnr.com/ [2] http://www.cnr.com/screenshots.html -- My Pardus Linux website, Blog and Gallery; www.tuxedup.com From faik at pardus.org.tr Wed Jul 4 20:00:11 2007 From: faik at pardus.org.tr (Faik Uygur) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 20:00:11 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Idea for Package-Manager In-Reply-To: <279b1f500707031058s32b7c282vd7212786cf644a99@mail.gmail.com> References: <279b1f500707031058s32b7c282vd7212786cf644a99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707042000.12071.faik@pardus.org.tr> On Tuesday 03 July 2007 20:58:35 Michael Austin wrote: > Hello Everyone, Hi Michael, Thanks for sharing the idea. :) > I was looking at the CNR service that Linspire are developing that > will cover a number of distributions, not just their own Linspire and > Freespire [1]. The screenshots section [2] gave me an idea for future > development of Package-Manager. > > On the screenshots you can see there is the package name, description, > version and other information. In addition to these you can see there > is a screenshot of the application. This is the part that gave me the > idea. > > My idea is that Package-Manager should continue to show the package > name, description, package size, version number and link to home page, > but in addition the chosen package should display a screenshot of the > chosen application. > > My idea is that Package-Manager should display a small scaled down > version of the screenshot, and clicking it opens a larger version. To > cater for those with low bandwidth connections the small image could > open link to a larger version from the internet. The small scalaed > down version could be cached locally like the package list. To > further cater for low bandwidth users, the screenshots could be > disabled, meaning no screenshots are displayed or downloaded and > cached. > > The images could be low quality jpeg images. During the build process > on the build server, the images could be scaled using imagemagik or > something similar. Each developer could take a screenshot of the > application and then add to the pspec of the package. Then commit the > image along with the pspec, actions and other files. This is a nice idea that we also discussed about some time ago. But the problem is where to keep these images. If we put these images inside the package, than package-manager can not display these images until it downloads the package. But we want to see the screenshots to decide to download and install a package. Currently package-manager is html based. We have a web site project called ozgurlukicin.com ("forfreedom.com") and there we are planning to put reviews and screenshots of applications. When it is finished (if it will :) ) then maybe somehow we can connect that portal with the package-manager. Regards, - Faik From caglar at pardus.org.tr Thu Jul 5 01:32:33 2007 From: caglar at pardus.org.tr (=?utf-8?q?S=2E=C3=87a=C4=9Flar?= Onur) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 01:32:33 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [Paketler] [review] desktop/kde/kplayer In-Reply-To: <200707042350.17523.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <200707042350.17523.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <200707050132.36088.caglar@pardus.org.tr> Hi; We are using pardus-devel mailing list for our non-turkish speaker developers/contributors package reviews, so adding that list to CC and dropping paketler one. 04 Tem 2007 ??ar tarihinde, Ismail D??nmez ??unlar?? yazm????t??: > KPlayer package by Jonas Pfenniger , please review. actions.py: - No need to import autotools in actions.py kde.make("-f Makefile.dist") can be used. pspec.xml: - No need to depend qt, cause kdebase already depends it @ BuildDependencies - No need to depend xorg-server, cause kdebase again already depends it @ RuntimeDependencies - instead of writing all possible paths @ Files like following /usr/kde/3.5/bin /usr/kde/3.5/lib /usr/kde/3.5/share/applications /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps /usr/kde/3.5/share/doc /usr/kde/3.5/share/icons /usr/kde/3.5/share/locale /usr/kde/3.5/share/services that one /usr/kde/3.5/bin /usr/kde/3.5/lib /usr/kde/3.5/share/ /usr/kde/3.5/share/doc /usr/kde/3.5/share/locale can be used. ACK (after these corrected) Cheers -- S.??a??lar Onur http://cekirdek.pardus.org.tr/~caglar/ Linux is like living in a teepee. No Windows, no Gates and an Apache in house! -------------- sonraki b?l?m -------------- Yaz??? olmayan bir eklenti temizlendi... ???sim: kullan???lam???yor T???r: application/pgp-signature Boyut: 189 bayt Tan???m: This is a digitally signed message part. Url: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070705/921e132a/attachment.pgp From ismail at pardus.org.tr Thu Jul 5 01:39:37 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 01:39:37 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [Paketler] [review] desktop/kde/kplayer In-Reply-To: <200707050132.36088.caglar@pardus.org.tr> References: <200707042350.17523.ismail@pardus.org.tr> <200707050132.36088.caglar@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <200707050139.42335.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Thursday 05 July 2007 01:32:33 S.?a?lar Onur wrote: > Hi; > > We are using pardus-devel mailing list for our non-turkish speaker > developers/contributors package reviews, so adding that list to CC and > dropping paketler one. > > 04 Tem 2007 ?ar tarihinde, Ismail D?nmez ?unlar? yazm??t?: > > KPlayer package by Jonas Pfenniger , please review. > > actions.py: > - No need to import autotools in actions.py > > kde.make("-f Makefile.dist") > > can be used. > > pspec.xml: > - No need to depend qt, cause kdebase already depends it @ > BuildDependencies > > - No need to depend xorg-server, cause kdebase again already depends it @ > RuntimeDependencies > > - instead of writing all possible paths @ Files like following > > /usr/kde/3.5/bin > /usr/kde/3.5/lib > /usr/kde/3.5/share/applications > /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps > /usr/kde/3.5/share/doc > /usr/kde/3.5/share/icons > /usr/kde/3.5/share/locale > /usr/kde/3.5/share/services > > > that one > > > /usr/kde/3.5/bin > /usr/kde/3.5/lib > /usr/kde/3.5/share/ > /usr/kde/3.5/share/doc > /usr/kde/3.5/share/locale > > > can be used. > > ACK (after these corrected) Fixed, also removed mplayer from BuildDependencies since it can't be a build dep. /ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070705/3a13b15d/attachment.htm From turkay.eren at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 21:40:19 2007 From: turkay.eren at gmail.com (Eren =?ISO-8859-9?B?VPxya2F5?=) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 21:40:19 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/cedet In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707051050w38371eedg606cd924a23547c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707051050w38371eedg606cd924a23547c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070705214019.e9976e16.turkay.eren@gmail.com> On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:50:36 +0300 "Nicolas Lara" wrote: > Package cedet. With latest commit (r28914), it's OK for me. Btw. have you solved a problem about automatically loading emacs modules? If not, you could report a bug :) From ismail at pardus.org.tr Thu Jul 5 23:28:11 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 23:28:11 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/cedet In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707051050w38371eedg606cd924a23547c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707051050w38371eedg606cd924a23547c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707052328.16431.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Thursday 05 July 2007 20:50:36 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Package cedet. Emacs already is a great environment for writing software, but there are additional areas that need improvement. Many new ideas for integrated environments have been developed in newer products, such as Microsoft's Visual environment, JBuilder, Eclipse, or KDevelop. CEDET is a project which brings together several different tools needed to implement advanced features. 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Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070705/ab21b9bd/attachment.pgp From gb at openlight.com Fri Jul 6 19:00:18 2007 From: gb at openlight.com (George Belotsky) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:00:18 -0400 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Conclusions to "Rethinking the Linux Distribution" Message-ID: <20070706160018.GA11520@localhost> Hello, Everyone: Almost two months have passed since the publication of "Rethinking the Linux Distribution". I have summarized the debate thus far, and posted the analysis to O'Reilly's forum. I included a thank-you note to the Pardus team, for your great work. http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/91621 The article mentioned the Aviation Safety Reporting System (ASRS) as a source of ideas for governance of online collaboration. In the analysis, I expand on this concept. A reporting system modelled on the ASRS would help us make better use of the "Wisdom of Crowds", to improve the Linux distribution. See the link above for more details. Feel free to comment or ask questions. Do you think such a system would be useful in general? Would you use it? Wish you all the best, George. From nicolaslara at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 16:31:51 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 16:31:51 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/cedet In-Reply-To: <200707052328.16431.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707051050w38371eedg606cd924a23547c9@mail.gmail.com> <200707052328.16431.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707070631k306a28d8o40ff12c517f4158a@mail.gmail.com> I removed the newlines.. though I prefer them to long lines :) On 7/5/07, Ismail D?nmez wrote: > > On Thursday 05 July 2007 20:50:36 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > Package cedet. > > > Emacs already is a great environment for writing software, > but there are additional areas that need improvement. Many > new ideas for integrated environments have been developed > in newer products, such as Microsoft's Visual environment, > JBuilder, Eclipse, or KDevelop. CEDET is a project which > brings together several different tools needed to > implement advanced features. > > > Description's should have newlines like this. > > app:gui > > no? > > /ismail > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070707/fcd8584f/attachment.htm From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sat Jul 7 16:33:36 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 16:33:36 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/cedet In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707070631k306a28d8o40ff12c517f4158a@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707051050w38371eedg606cd924a23547c9@mail.gmail.com> <200707052328.16431.ismail@pardus.org.tr> <46ef4bec0707070631k306a28d8o40ff12c517f4158a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707071633.44470.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Saturday 07 July 2007 16:31:51 Nicolas Lara wrote: > I removed the newlines.. though I prefer them to long lines :) Thanks but app:gui still there. Regards, ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On 7/7/07, Ismail D?nmez wrote: > > On Saturday 07 July 2007 16:31:51 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > I removed the newlines.. though I prefer them to long lines :) > > Thanks but app:gui still there. > > Regards, > ismail > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070707/3580c8a6/attachment.htm From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sat Jul 7 16:53:08 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 16:53:08 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/cedet In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707070651p3436cfdap8ad071ef3686d103@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707051050w38371eedg606cd924a23547c9@mail.gmail.com> <200707071633.44470.ismail@pardus.org.tr> <46ef4bec0707070651p3436cfdap8ad071ef3686d103@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707071653.08480.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Saturday 07 July 2007 16:51:26 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Isnt it an app:gui? > its for emacs but it allows better UI.... If not I dont know what it is: > app:cconsol? library? Its not a GUI app, its app:data at its best IMHO. Regards, ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If not I dont know what it is: > > app:cconsol? library? > > Its not a GUI app, its app:data at its best IMHO. > > Regards, > ismail > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070707/8ae2fac1/attachment.htm From nicolaslara at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 17:39:26 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 17:39:26 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/ecb Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707070739l2f388efdy33dca77406a7de79@mail.gmail.com> Package for Emacs Code Browser -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070707/b056b8fe/attachment.htm From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sat Jul 7 17:54:02 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 17:54:02 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/ecb In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707070739l2f388efdy33dca77406a7de79@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707070739l2f388efdy33dca77406a7de79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707071754.02829.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Saturday 07 July 2007 17:39:26 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Package for Emacs Code Browser This and cedet is OK for devel & 2007. -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070707/d10b10bb/attachment.pgp From turkay.eren at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 18:38:38 2007 From: turkay.eren at gmail.com (Eren =?ISO-8859-9?B?VPxya2F5?=) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 18:38:38 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/ecb In-Reply-To: <200707071754.02829.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707070739l2f388efdy33dca77406a7de79@mail.gmail.com> <200707071754.02829.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <20070707183838.2442341c.turkay.eren@gmail.com> On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 17:54:02 +0300 Ismail D?nmez wrote: > On Saturday 07 July 2007 17:39:26 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > Package for Emacs Code Browser > > This and cedet is OK for devel & 2007. OK for me too. From nicolaslara at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 19:03:30 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 19:03:30 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/prolog/swi-prolog Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> Added swi-prolog prolog Compiler package for review -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070707/4a5258d8/attachment.htm From rajeev.sebastian at gmail.com Sat Jul 7 19:10:43 2007 From: rajeev.sebastian at gmail.com (Rajeev J Sebastian) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 21:40:43 +0530 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/prolog/swi-prolog In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79a035420707070910y5f918550n401fccca7cd3efb5@mail.gmail.com> Great! This is useful ... thanks On 7/7/07, Nicolas Lara wrote: > Added swi-prolog prolog Compiler package for review > > -- > Nicolas Lara > Linux user #380134 > Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ > # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: > python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( > 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" > python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( > 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sat Jul 7 21:52:59 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 21:52:59 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/ecb In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707070739l2f388efdy33dca77406a7de79@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707070739l2f388efdy33dca77406a7de79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707072153.00304.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Saturday 07 July 2007 17:39:26 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Package for Emacs Code Browser Merged to devel, with cedet. 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Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070707/c2e1baec/attachment.pgp From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sat Jul 7 22:03:05 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 22:03:05 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/python/pyinotify In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707070910s46b85aban71bf79df5960a594@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707070910s46b85aban71bf79df5960a594@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707072203.06185.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Saturday 07 July 2007 19:10:31 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Added pyinotify package for review /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages /usr/share/doc/pyinotify-0.7.0-1 instead use /usr/lib /usr/share/doc Other than that all cool, also if you package emacs-themes I'll give you a big cookie! :D /ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070707/1bf42d2e/attachment-0001.pgp From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sat Jul 7 22:05:37 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 22:05:37 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/prolog/swi-prolog In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707072205.38287.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Saturday 07 July 2007 19:03:30 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Added swi-prolog prolog Compiler package for review Also, though not required for acceptance, it doesn't compile with gcc4 : SWI-Prolog boot files loaded Boot compilation has created pl.prc ./pl.sh -x pl.prc \ -f none -F none \ -g make_library_index\(\'../library\'\) \ -t halt [FATAL ERROR: Could not open resource database "pl.prc": Inappropriate ioctl for device] make[1]: *** [../library/INDEX.pl] Error 2 Extra points if you can get it fixed. /ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070707/5e745dd6/attachment.pgp From amine.chadly at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 02:05:25 2007 From: amine.chadly at gmail.com (Amine Chadly) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 01:05:25 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Conclusions to "Rethinking the Linux Distribution" In-Reply-To: <20070706160018.GA11520@localhost> References: <20070706160018.GA11520@localhost> Message-ID: <977c1d000707071605u7a83b378tf79cdf349808cf0d@mail.gmail.com> I was a little confused about the aviation safter reporting system part of your email, but after having a look at it [http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/callback_nf.htm] and at different issues, I found it very interesting ! Having short stories telling problems faced and the solutions is an excellent concept. I would see as well a way to access to stories according to topics (security and system admin comes in mind). The problem as always is maintaining everything, and putting content in place ;-) On 7/6/07, George Belotsky wrote: > Hello, Everyone: > > Almost two months have passed since the publication of "Rethinking the > Linux Distribution". > > I have summarized the debate thus far, and posted the analysis to > O'Reilly's forum. I included a thank-you note to the Pardus team, for > your great work. > > http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/91621 > > The article mentioned the Aviation Safety Reporting System (ASRS) as a > source of ideas for governance of online collaboration. In the > analysis, I expand on this concept. A reporting system modelled on > the ASRS would help us make better use of the "Wisdom of Crowds", to > improve the Linux distribution. See the link above for more details. > > Feel free to comment or ask questions. Do you think such a system > would be useful in general? Would you use it? > > Wish you all the best, > > George. > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > -- Amine Chadly From nicolaslara at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 08:25:45 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 08:25:45 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/prolog/swi-prolog In-Reply-To: <200707072205.38287.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> <200707072205.38287.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707072225w2326e576ka0f21322b58ae290@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Thanks for the feedback. I have gcc4 and ot works fine, but i'll keep looking into that error. Added dodoc. Regards, On 7/7/07, Ismail D?nmez wrote: > > On Saturday 07 July 2007 19:03:30 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > Added swi-prolog prolog Compiler package for review > > Also, though not required for acceptance, it doesn't compile with gcc4 : > > SWI-Prolog boot files loaded > Boot compilation has created pl.prc > ./pl.sh -x pl.prc \ > -f none -F none \ > -g make_library_index\(\'../library\'\) \ > -t halt > [FATAL ERROR: > Could not open resource database "pl.prc": Inappropriate ioctl for > device] > make[1]: *** [../library/INDEX.pl] Error 2 > > Extra points if you can get it fixed. > > /ismail > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070708/1623cdca/attachment.htm From nicolaslara at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 08:28:16 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 08:28:16 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/python/pyinotify In-Reply-To: <200707072203.06185.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707070910s46b85aban71bf79df5960a594@mail.gmail.com> <200707072203.06185.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707072228o4c26feecy62638f0c65c0a613@mail.gmail.com> done :) Thanks On 7/7/07, Ismail D?nmez wrote: > > On Saturday 07 July 2007 19:10:31 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > Added pyinotify package for review > > fileType="library">/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages > /usr/share/doc/pyinotify-0.7.0-1 > > instead use > > /usr/lib > /usr/share/doc > > > Other than that all cool, also if you package emacs-themes I'll give you a > big > cookie! :D > > /ismail > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070708/1aebdd3b/attachment.htm From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sun Jul 8 12:05:04 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 12:05:04 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/color-theme In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707072251p12db1916vc2a1f0e006af4404@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707072251p12db1916vc2a1f0e006af4404@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707081205.13031.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Sunday 08 July 2007 08:51:34 Nicolas Lara wrote: > And for my cookie, Added color-theme for emacs :) for data in ['*.el', 'themes', 'Makefile']: I guess we can omit Makefile, other than tha thanks! I owe you a big cookie! OK for 2007/devel, after you fix Makefile thing. Regards, ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070708/8922a6c0/attachment.pgp From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sun Jul 8 12:05:39 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 12:05:39 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/prolog/swi-prolog In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707081205.40311.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Saturday 07 July 2007 19:03:30 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Added swi-prolog prolog Compiler package for review OK for devel/2007 now. -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070708/db1771a5/attachment-0001.pgp From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sun Jul 8 12:19:41 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 12:19:41 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/prolog/swi-prolog In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707081219.55613.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Saturday 07 July 2007 19:03:30 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Added swi-prolog prolog Compiler package for review Also can you if the program works if you do rm -rf /var/pisi/swi-prolog* . It seems to have some references to build dir. /ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070708/9ee88176/attachment.pgp From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sun Jul 8 12:22:09 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 12:22:09 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/prolog/swi-prolog In-Reply-To: <200707081219.55613.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> <200707081219.55613.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <200707081222.10369.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Sunday 08 July 2007 12:19:41 Ismail D?nmez wrote: > On Saturday 07 July 2007 19:03:30 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > Added swi-prolog prolog Compiler package for review > > Also can you if the program works if you do rm -rf /var/pisi/swi-prolog* . > It seems to have some references to build dir. s/can you/can you check -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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[0] http://gentoo-portage.com/AJAX/Ebuild/47518 /ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070708/e1b1804d/attachment.pgp From nicolaslara at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 17:05:07 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:05:07 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/color-theme In-Reply-To: <200707081205.13031.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707072251p12db1916vc2a1f0e006af4404@mail.gmail.com> <200707081205.13031.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707080705y1fb3197by6d6b3580ff111b4c@mail.gmail.com> I had left the Makefile in case someone wanted to byte-compile. But now its gone :) Regards, On 7/8/07, Ismail D?nmez wrote: > > On Sunday 08 July 2007 08:51:34 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > And for my cookie, Added color-theme for emacs :) > > for data in ['*.el', 'themes', 'Makefile']: > > I guess we can omit Makefile, other than tha thanks! I owe you a big > cookie! > OK for 2007/devel, after you fix Makefile thing. > > Regards, > ismail > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070708/d9561375/attachment.htm From nicolaslara at gmail.com Sun Jul 8 17:07:16 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:07:16 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/prolog/swi-prolog In-Reply-To: <200707081225.55564.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> <200707081225.55564.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707080707m86d68e8xddb2a1174b76c360@mail.gmail.com> I checked removing the build dir and it still works... Ill check the ebuild and let you know... On 7/8/07, Ismail D?nmez wrote: > > On Saturday 07 July 2007 19:03:30 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > Added swi-prolog prolog Compiler package for review > > Ok one last thing I promise, can you check Gentoo ebuild [0], it applies > so > many patches and enables more parts. Also looks like dependencies are > missing. > > [0] http://gentoo-portage.com/AJAX/Ebuild/47518 > > /ismail > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070708/df9f00a8/attachment.htm From gb at openlight.com Sun Jul 8 17:35:35 2007 From: gb at openlight.com (George Belotsky) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:35:35 -0400 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Conclusions to "Rethinking the Linux Distribution" In-Reply-To: <977c1d000707071605u7a83b378tf79cdf349808cf0d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070706160018.GA11520@localhost> <977c1d000707071605u7a83b378tf79cdf349808cf0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070708143535.GA2874@localhost> On 08 Sun 07, Amine Chadly wrote: > I was a little confused about the aviation safter reporting system > part of your email, but after having a look at it > [http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/callback_nf.htm] and at different issues, I > found it very interesting ! Great! You can also take a look at some ASRS report sets. http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/report_sets_nf.htm Note that the data is formatted as name-value pairs. The names look a lot like structured tags. Here is a fragment. Person : 1 Function.Flight Crew : Captain Function.Oversight : PIC Person : 2 Function.Flight Crew : First Officer As I mentioned previously, an interesting approach would be to combine the idea of an ASRS report with social networking tags. Anyone submitting the report would tag it, so the classification system would evolve organically. Names used inside reports could also work like tags, as stated above. > Having short stories telling problems faced and the solutions is an > excellent concept. I would see as well a way to access to stories > according to topics (security and system admin comes in mind). The ASRS sample reports include the narrative sections, so you can read the stories and get an idea of how this works. In the proposed system, tags would allow you to find reports -- similar to the way you use Flickr or del.icio.us. If you have any suggestions, I would appreciate them. What would you like to see in such a system? Wish you all the best, George. > > > On 7/6/07, George Belotsky wrote: > > Hello, Everyone: > > > > Almost two months have passed since the publication of "Rethinking the > > Linux Distribution". > > > > I have summarized the debate thus far, and posted the analysis to > > O'Reilly's forum. I included a thank-you note to the Pardus team, for > > your great work. > > > > http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/91621 > > > > The article mentioned the Aviation Safety Reporting System (ASRS) as a > > source of ideas for governance of online collaboration. In the > > analysis, I expand on this concept. A reporting system modelled on > > the ASRS would help us make better use of the "Wisdom of Crowds", to > > improve the Linux distribution. See the link above for more details. > > > > Feel free to comment or ask questions. Do you think such a system > > would be useful in general? Would you use it? > > > > Wish you all the best, > > > > George. > > _______________________________________________ > > Pardus-devel mailing list > > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > > > > -- > Amine Chadly > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sun Jul 8 18:26:24 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:26:24 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/color-theme In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707080705y1fb3197by6d6b3580ff111b4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707072251p12db1916vc2a1f0e006af4404@mail.gmail.com> <200707081205.13031.ismail@pardus.org.tr> <46ef4bec0707080705y1fb3197by6d6b3580ff111b4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707081826.28396.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Sunday 08 July 2007 17:05:07 Nicolas Lara wrote: > I had left the Makefile in case someone wanted to byte-compile. > But now its gone :) emacs package has a pakhandler which byte-compiles el files when its installed on the system. Regards, ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 827 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070708/1b7fbe97/attachment.pgp From ismail at pardus.org.tr Mon Jul 9 00:13:56 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 00:13:56 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/python/pyinotify In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707070910s46b85aban71bf79df5960a594@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707070910s46b85aban71bf79df5960a594@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707090013.57196.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Saturday 07 July 2007 19:10:31 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Added pyinotify package for review merged -- Perfect is the enemy of good -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070709/a39a12f2/attachment-0001.pgp From nicolaslara at gmail.com Mon Jul 9 06:46:19 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 06:46:19 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/prolog/swi-prolog In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707080707m86d68e8xddb2a1174b76c360@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707070903k4e4a8c5enfba4dc3f90b8b80b@mail.gmail.com> <200707081225.55564.ismail@pardus.org.tr> <46ef4bec0707080707m86d68e8xddb2a1174b76c360@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707082046k50698abbh203d44598084577f@mail.gmail.com> I've been checking this thing out and the only explaination I see for the ebuild being so complicated is that it iis a previous version of swi-prolog. According to the swi-prolog documentation it doesnt requiere patching or other dependencies. I tested the package in my box (with gcc4) and in a newly installed pardus box (with gcc3 and thnx to virtualbox) and it works fine in both. I fixed the dependencies to add some that are not actually needed but recomended and modified actions.py to try and failproof it. Pleas try it to see if this fixes the errors. Regards, On 7/8/07, Nicolas Lara wrote: > > I checked removing the build dir and it still works... Ill check the > ebuild and let you know... > > > On 7/8/07, Ismail D?nmez < ismail at pardus.org.tr> > wrote: > > > On Saturday 07 July 2007 19:03:30 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > > Added swi-prolog prolog Compiler package for review > > > > Ok one last thing I promise, can you check Gentoo ebuild [0], it applies > > so > > many patches and enables more parts. Also looks like dependencies are > > missing. > > > > [0] http://gentoo-portage.com/AJAX/Ebuild/47518 > > > > /ismail > > > > -- > > Perfect is the enemy of good > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pardus-devel mailing list > > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > > > > > > -- > Nicolas Lara > Linux user #380134 > Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ > # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: > python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( > 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" > python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( > 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" > -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070709/faad7ed4/attachment.htm From amine.chadly at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 00:30:32 2007 From: amine.chadly at gmail.com (Amine Chadly) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:30:32 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Conclusions to "Rethinking the Linux Distribution" In-Reply-To: <20070708143535.GA2874@localhost> References: <20070706160018.GA11520@localhost> <977c1d000707071605u7a83b378tf79cdf349808cf0d@mail.gmail.com> <20070708143535.GA2874@localhost> Message-ID: <977c1d000707101430s64e74d80ic41180696e37874d@mail.gmail.com> I think combining the idea of an ASRS with flexibility of tags seems like a big winner to me... If you want to have a general type of site, I guess that the content could be about solving particular problems in different flavors of linux distros. If it would focus on a particular distribution, then it could be about general problems... Were you asking for examples ? - Accelerate web browsing by setting up a proxy server. - Reducing the dns traffic by hosting you own inside your network. - Relaying the mail for your own domain. - Setting up a svn server for your local needs (or plain text backups !) - Setting a vpn for accessing your local network from the outside. and other little tips and tricks explaining caveats faced and the ways around them... What did you have in mind ? ^^ On 7/8/07, George Belotsky wrote: > On 08 Sun 07, Amine Chadly wrote: > > I was a little confused about the aviation safter reporting system > > part of your email, but after having a look at it > > [http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/callback_nf.htm] and at different issues, I > > found it very interesting ! > > Great! You can also take a look at some ASRS report sets. > > http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/report_sets_nf.htm > > Note that the data is formatted as name-value pairs. The names look a > lot like structured tags. Here is a fragment. > > Person : 1 > Function.Flight Crew : Captain > Function.Oversight : PIC > > Person : 2 > Function.Flight Crew : First Officer > > As I mentioned previously, an interesting approach would be to combine > the idea of an ASRS report with social networking tags. Anyone > submitting the report would tag it, so the classification system would > evolve organically. Names used inside reports could also work like > tags, as stated above. > > > Having short stories telling problems faced and the solutions is an > > excellent concept. I would see as well a way to access to stories > > according to topics (security and system admin comes in mind). > > The ASRS sample reports include the narrative sections, so you can > read the stories and get an idea of how this works. In the proposed > system, tags would allow you to find reports -- similar to the way > you use Flickr or del.icio.us. > > If you have any suggestions, I would appreciate them. What would you > like to see in such a system? > > Wish you all the best, > > George. > > > > > > > On 7/6/07, George Belotsky wrote: > > > Hello, Everyone: > > > > > > Almost two months have passed since the publication of "Rethinking the > > > Linux Distribution". > > > > > > I have summarized the debate thus far, and posted the analysis to > > > O'Reilly's forum. I included a thank-you note to the Pardus team, for > > > your great work. > > > > > > http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/91621 > > > > > > The article mentioned the Aviation Safety Reporting System (ASRS) as a > > > source of ideas for governance of online collaboration. In the > > > analysis, I expand on this concept. A reporting system modelled on > > > the ASRS would help us make better use of the "Wisdom of Crowds", to > > > improve the Linux distribution. See the link above for more details. > > > > > > Feel free to comment or ask questions. Do you think such a system > > > would be useful in general? Would you use it? > > > > > > Wish you all the best, > > > > > > George. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pardus-devel mailing list > > > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > > > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > > > > > > > > -- > > Amine Chadly > > _______________________________________________ > > Pardus-devel mailing list > > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > -- Amine Chadly From ekin at pardus.org.tr Thu Jul 12 07:41:13 2007 From: ekin at pardus.org.tr (Ekin =?utf-8?q?Mero=C4=9Flu?=) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:41:13 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [Uludag-commits] r14914 - in trunk: pisi/po yali/po In-Reply-To: <20070711232939.82ED27C004C@liste.uludag.org.tr> References: <20070711232939.82ED27C004C@liste.uludag.org.tr> Message-ID: <200707120741.13740.ekin@pardus.org.tr> Hi; > Author: klemens > Date: Thu Jul 12 02:29:39 2007 > New Revision: 14914 [...] > #: yali/gui/Ui/bootloaderwidget.py:105 > +# when writing the english you seemed very romantic ? ;) :-P the most amusing comment on .po's so far, thanks.. -- Ekin Meroglu ... did i listen to pop music because i was miserable, or was i miserable because i listened to pop music?... - rob [nick hornby / hi fi] From nicolaslara at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 03:36:48 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:36:48 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/python/markdown/ Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707141736s4db1e9c3n1ca9790841826010@mail.gmail.com> Added package for thhe python implementation of markdown -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070715/671fb827/attachment.htm From ismail at pardus.org.tr Mon Jul 16 10:45:57 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:45:57 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/python/markdown/ In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707141736s4db1e9c3n1ca9790841826010@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707141736s4db1e9c3n1ca9790841826010@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707161045.57658.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Sunday 15 July 2007 03:36:48 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Added package for thhe python implementation of markdown Instead of, /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages use, /usr/lib so you are not dependant on the Python version. Regards, ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good From gb at openlight.com Mon Jul 16 10:46:55 2007 From: gb at openlight.com (George Belotsky) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:46:55 -0400 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Conclusions to "Rethinking the Linux Distribution" In-Reply-To: <977c1d000707101430s64e74d80ic41180696e37874d@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070706160018.GA11520@localhost> <977c1d000707071605u7a83b378tf79cdf349808cf0d@mail.gmail.com> <20070708143535.GA2874@localhost> <977c1d000707101430s64e74d80ic41180696e37874d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070716074655.GA6542@localhost> Thanks a lot for your interesting suggestions, Amine; these would be great for a HOWTO site. I was thinking, however, about reporting errors -- just like the ASRS users do. For example, you may have several terminal windows on your desktop, with each window connected to a different remote machine via ssh. In this scenario, it is easy to accidentally give a command to the wrong machine. After all, the terminal windows look the same. Here is a *fictional* narrative, showing how someone may report such an error. "Working late at night. Before running some tests, shut down the Apache on what I thought was the development machine. After several minutes, realized that it was one of the production servers instead. Restarted Apache, and the machine rejoined the server farm. Fatigue was a factor, since I normally open terminal windows to production Web servers only on a specially reserved virtual desktop. This time, however, I neglected to do so." Note that the above situation is not due to any bug. The terminal emulator, window manger, ssh, etc. are all working perfectly. Yet, the error may occur anyway -- because the human factor is also part of the system. A similar situation occurred on an aircraft type during World War II. Mysteriously, pilots would occasionally crash these airplanes during landing. It turned out that, because the gear and flap levers were close to each other, it was quite possible to activate the wrong one. So, improper interaction of a sound airplane and a trained pilot could still lead to accidents. The solution was to place a small wheel shape on the gear lever, and a wedge shape on the flaps lever. After this, the crashes stopped. Much later, the ASRS came into being as general tool, to catch these types of problems (as well as many others) on an ongoing basis. With such a facility for Linux distributions, we should find areas where great improvements can be made -- improvements that may not be obvious from any other source. Wish you all the best, George. On 10 Tue 07, Amine Chadly wrote: > I think combining the idea of an ASRS with flexibility of tags seems > like a big winner to me... > If you want to have a general type of site, I guess that the content > could be about solving particular problems in different flavors of > linux distros. > If it would focus on a particular distribution, then it could be about > general problems... Were you asking for examples ? > - Accelerate web browsing by setting up a proxy server. > - Reducing the dns traffic by hosting you own inside your network. > - Relaying the mail for your own domain. > - Setting up a svn server for your local needs (or plain text backups !) > - Setting a vpn for accessing your local network from the outside. > > and other little tips and tricks explaining caveats faced and the ways > around them... > > What did you have in mind ? ^^ > > On 7/8/07, George Belotsky wrote: > > On 08 Sun 07, Amine Chadly wrote: > > > I was a little confused about the aviation safter reporting system > > > part of your email, but after having a look at it > > > [http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/callback_nf.htm] and at different issues, I > > > found it very interesting ! > > > > Great! You can also take a look at some ASRS report sets. > > > > http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/report_sets_nf.htm > > > > Note that the data is formatted as name-value pairs. The names look a > > lot like structured tags. Here is a fragment. > > > > Person : 1 > > Function.Flight Crew : Captain > > Function.Oversight : PIC > > > > Person : 2 > > Function.Flight Crew : First Officer > > > > As I mentioned previously, an interesting approach would be to combine > > the idea of an ASRS report with social networking tags. Anyone > > submitting the report would tag it, so the classification system would > > evolve organically. Names used inside reports could also work like > > tags, as stated above. > > > > > Having short stories telling problems faced and the solutions is an > > > excellent concept. I would see as well a way to access to stories > > > according to topics (security and system admin comes in mind). > > > > The ASRS sample reports include the narrative sections, so you can > > read the stories and get an idea of how this works. In the proposed > > system, tags would allow you to find reports -- similar to the way > > you use Flickr or del.icio.us. > > > > If you have any suggestions, I would appreciate them. What would you > > like to see in such a system? > > > > Wish you all the best, > > > > George. > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/6/07, George Belotsky wrote: > > > > Hello, Everyone: > > > > > > > > Almost two months have passed since the publication of "Rethinking the > > > > Linux Distribution". > > > > > > > > I have summarized the debate thus far, and posted the analysis to > > > > O'Reilly's forum. I included a thank-you note to the Pardus team, for > > > > your great work. > > > > > > > > http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/user/view/cs_msg/91621 > > > > > > > > The article mentioned the Aviation Safety Reporting System (ASRS) as a > > > > source of ideas for governance of online collaboration. In the > > > > analysis, I expand on this concept. A reporting system modelled on > > > > the ASRS would help us make better use of the "Wisdom of Crowds", to > > > > improve the Linux distribution. See the link above for more details. > > > > > > > > Feel free to comment or ask questions. Do you think such a system > > > > would be useful in general? Would you use it? > > > > > > > > Wish you all the best, > > > > > > > > George. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Pardus-devel mailing list > > > > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > > > > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Amine Chadly > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pardus-devel mailing list > > > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > > > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > _______________________________________________ > > Pardus-devel mailing list > > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > > > > > -- > Amine Chadly > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel From nicolaslara at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 16:10:16 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:10:16 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/python/markdown/ In-Reply-To: <200707161045.57658.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707141736s4db1e9c3n1ca9790841826010@mail.gmail.com> <200707161045.57658.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707160610x68ca33e5h82d5c6a6566bd43e@mail.gmail.com> Fixed, Thnx -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" On 7/16/07, Ismail D?nmez wrote: > > On Sunday 15 July 2007 03:36:48 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > Added package for thhe python implementation of markdown > > Instead of, > > /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages > > use, > > /usr/lib > > so you are not dependant on the Python version. > > Regards, > ismail > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I put it in my playground ( http://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/playground/vynil/config-monitor/ ) in case anyone wants to take a look. But, remember, it is an incomplete version. It is still has many bugs and lacks functionality. I'd apreciate your feedback Regards, -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Url : http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070721/4e359a1c/attachment.pgp From amine.chadly at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 14:37:04 2007 From: amine.chadly at gmail.com (Amine Chadly) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:37:04 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Opera update ! Message-ID: <977c1d000707220437x46a4fbeeged5c6b0c2f6b9b6b@mail.gmail.com> Hi all ! Just to signal a very minor incovenience, after accepting the latest opera update I lost the eclipse-sdk package, wx-python and others that I didn't find yet (well, that's good for me, more disk space !)... Package Manager didn't warn me about removal of anything prior to the "upgrade". Other than that, I now use opera 9.22 ! Yuhu ! -- Amine Chadly From ismail at pardus.org.tr Sun Jul 22 14:40:54 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?iso-8859-1?q?D=F6nmez?=) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:40:54 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Opera update ! In-Reply-To: <977c1d000707220437x46a4fbeeged5c6b0c2f6b9b6b@mail.gmail.com> References: <977c1d000707220437x46a4fbeeged5c6b0c2f6b9b6b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707221440.54467.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Sunday 22 July 2007 14:37:04 Amine Chadly wrote: > Hi all ! > Just to signal a very minor incovenience, > after accepting the latest opera update I lost the eclipse-sdk > package, wx-python and others that I didn't find yet (well, that's > good for me, more disk space !)... > Package Manager didn't warn me about removal of anything prior to the > "upgrade". It shouldn't be related to to Opera. > Other than that, I now use opera 9.22 ! Yuhu ! You are welcome, it was a security update too ;) -- Perfect is the enemy of good From amine.chadly at gmail.com Sun Jul 22 16:57:54 2007 From: amine.chadly at gmail.com (Amine Chadly) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:57:54 +0200 Subject: [Pardus-devel] Opera update ! In-Reply-To: <200707221440.54467.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <977c1d000707220437x46a4fbeeged5c6b0c2f6b9b6b@mail.gmail.com> <200707221440.54467.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <977c1d000707220657p15580398t6c8d4989013c3de2@mail.gmail.com> Hey Ismail ! Confirming what you just said : eclipse-sdk-binary, wx-python, memusage have been removed because they are obsolete and replaced by others... I installed eclipse-binary instead... the install went just fine, but I had some troubles to run eclipse again. Just deleting my ~/,eclipse did the trick. Happy development all ! On 7/22/07, Ismail D?nmez wrote: > On Sunday 22 July 2007 14:37:04 Amine Chadly wrote: > > Hi all ! > > Just to signal a very minor incovenience, > > after accepting the latest opera update I lost the eclipse-sdk > > package, wx-python and others that I didn't find yet (well, that's > > good for me, more disk space !)... > > Package Manager didn't warn me about removal of anything prior to the > > "upgrade". > > It shouldn't be related to to Opera. > > > Other than that, I now use opera 9.22 ! Yuhu ! > > You are welcome, it was a security update too ;) > > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > -- Amine Chadly From nicolaslara at gmail.com Thu Jul 26 16:26:39 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:26:39 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/python/simplejson Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707260626q7809926rf2bbf52d35bd23d2@mail.gmail.com> Simple JSON library for python -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070730/720ef2a3/attachment.htm From ismail at pardus.org.tr Mon Jul 30 23:48:45 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:48:45 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/slime In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707300936pee95e89jce14cd58ac1e2fff@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707300936pee95e89jce14cd58ac1e2fff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707302348.45527.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Monday 30 July 2007 19:36:24 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Added SLIME package GPL -> GPL-2 in 80-slime.el (setq inferior-lisp-program "/usr/local/bin/sbcl") ; your Lisp system this is wrong, packages shouldn't install/use anything in /usr/local in actions.py # See the file http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.txt. This should be : # See the file http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.txt also get module is not used, hence should not be imported. -- Perfect is the enemy of good From ismail at pardus.org.tr Mon Jul 30 23:50:48 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:50:48 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/lisp/sbcl In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707300913w2edeb4b6n8ec44eb71ac2d0ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707300913w2edeb4b6n8ec44eb71ac2d0ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707302350.48298.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Monday 30 July 2007 19:13:29 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Added Common Lisp compiler/interpreter SBCL Summary shouldn't mention package name, hence should be like : An open source (free software) compiler and runtime system for ANSI Common Lisp. Packages should never ever install anything under /usr/local, use /usr/{bin,share,...} in actions.py please make pisitools.dodoc the last statement. Also this seems to be a precompiled binary, care to do a source package ? -- Perfect is the enemy of good From gurer at pardus.org.tr Tue Jul 31 00:03:54 2007 From: gurer at pardus.org.tr (=?iso-8859-1?q?G=FCrer_=D6zen?=) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:03:54 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/lisp/sbcl In-Reply-To: <200707302350.48298.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707300913w2edeb4b6n8ec44eb71ac2d0ce@mail.gmail.com> <200707302350.48298.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <200707310003.54575.gurer@pardus.org.tr> On Monday 30 July 2007 23:50:48 Ismail D?nmez wrote: > On Monday 30 July 2007 19:13:29 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > Added Common Lisp compiler/interpreter SBCL > > Summary shouldn't mention package name, hence should be like : > > An open source (free software) compiler and runtime system for > ANSI Common Lisp. I think even this is superfluous. It is clear from the tag that this is a free software (and since we mostly distribute free software anyway, it is the non-free ones which need special notices), so something like: ANSI Common Lisp compiler and runtime is enough. Summary should be short and concise, as it is usually displayed right next to the program name in a list. Think of it as a menu entry instead of a formal description. From ismail at pardus.org.tr Tue Jul 31 01:00:54 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:00:54 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/lisp/sbcl In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707300913w2edeb4b6n8ec44eb71ac2d0ce@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707300913w2edeb4b6n8ec44eb71ac2d0ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707310100.54256.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Monday 30 July 2007 19:13:29 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Added Common Lisp compiler/interpreter SBCL shelltools.export("SBCL_HOME", "/usr/lib/sbcl") is not needed in actions.py, other than that OK for contrib repo. But I would like a source build better. /ismail -- Perfect is the enemy of good From nicolaslara at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 01:01:00 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:01:00 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/slime In-Reply-To: <200707302348.45527.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707300936pee95e89jce14cd58ac1e2fff@mail.gmail.com> <200707302348.45527.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707301501r3d935966mbc25157f7b0ef851@mail.gmail.com> Fixed, thnx -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" On 7/30/07, Ismail D?nmez wrote: > > On Monday 30 July 2007 19:36:24 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > Added SLIME package > > GPL -> GPL-2 > > in 80-slime.el > > (setq inferior-lisp-program "/usr/local/bin/sbcl") ; your Lisp system > > this is wrong, packages shouldn't install/use anything in /usr/local > > in actions.py > > # See the file http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.txt. > > This should be : > > # See the file http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.txt > > also get module is not used, hence should not be imported. > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070731/bcab2f74/attachment.htm From nicolaslara at gmail.com Tue Jul 31 01:03:51 2007 From: nicolaslara at gmail.com (Nicolas Lara) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:03:51 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/lisp/sbcl In-Reply-To: <200707310100.54256.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <46ef4bec0707300913w2edeb4b6n8ec44eb71ac2d0ce@mail.gmail.com> <200707310100.54256.ismail@pardus.org.tr> Message-ID: <46ef4bec0707301503h7abefec8p137f3160c667b1b4@mail.gmail.com> Yes, I skiped the source build because you need another lisp implementation installed to compile from source and I was lazy today. Maybe somehting like sbcl-bin and sbcl and use sbcl-bin to bootstrap sbcl (?) -- Nicolas Lara Linux user #380134 Public key id: 0x152e7713 at http://keyserver.noreply.org/ # Anti-Spam e-mail addresses: python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolaslara', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 'com|gmail'.split('|') )])])" python -c "print '@'.join(['nicolas', '.'.join([x for x in reversed( 've|usb|labf|ac'.split('|') )])])" On 7/31/07, Ismail D?nmez wrote: > > On Monday 30 July 2007 19:13:29 Nicolas Lara wrote: > > Added Common Lisp compiler/interpreter SBCL > > shelltools.export("SBCL_HOME", "/usr/lib/sbcl") > > is not needed in actions.py, other than that OK for contrib repo. But I > would > like a source build better. > > /ismail > > -- > Perfect is the enemy of good > _______________________________________________ > Pardus-devel mailing list > Pardus-devel at pardus.org.tr > http://liste.uludag.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-devel > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/attachments/20070731/6770801b/attachment.htm From ismail at pardus.org.tr Tue Jul 31 01:10:07 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:10:07 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/programming/languages/lisp/sbcl In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707301503h7abefec8p137f3160c667b1b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707300913w2edeb4b6n8ec44eb71ac2d0ce@mail.gmail.com> <200707310100.54256.ismail@pardus.org.tr> <46ef4bec0707301503h7abefec8p137f3160c667b1b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707310110.07544.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Tuesday 31 July 2007 01:03:51 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Yes, I skiped the source build because you need another lisp implementation > installed to compile from source and I was lazy today. Maybe somehting like > sbcl-bin and sbcl and use sbcl-bin to bootstrap sbcl (?) I do that in a custom tarball, checkout ghc package. sbcl is OK for contrib. -- Perfect is the enemy of good From ismail at pardus.org.tr Tue Jul 31 01:10:17 2007 From: ismail at pardus.org.tr (Ismail =?utf-8?q?D=C3=B6nmez?=) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:10:17 +0300 Subject: [Pardus-devel] [review] review/applications/editors/emacs/slime In-Reply-To: <46ef4bec0707301501r3d935966mbc25157f7b0ef851@mail.gmail.com> References: <46ef4bec0707300936pee95e89jce14cd58ac1e2fff@mail.gmail.com> <200707302348.45527.ismail@pardus.org.tr> <46ef4bec0707301501r3d935966mbc25157f7b0ef851@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200707310110.17671.ismail@pardus.org.tr> On Tuesday 31 July 2007 01:01:00 Nicolas Lara wrote: > Fixed, thnx OK for contrib. -- Perfect is the enemy of good